Episode 013 – Healing Scoliosis, Ulcerative Colitis, and a Brain Tumor – Cliff and Marta Wilde

Meet Cliff and Marta Wilde – the founders and directors of Wilde Performance – a leading online health consultancy working with professionals whose career and lifestyle have dramatically affected their health.

Their clients have often tried many conventional and alternative approaches and got nowhere. They now feel stuck but deep down know there is something that can be done so that they can FEEL BETTER AGAIN but haven’t yet found the right people to give them back that hope.

They both believe in a world where everyone feels empowered, supported and in control of their own health and life.

They help you become aware of what is ‘normal’ and what certainly isn’t ‘normal’, while at the same time – treating you like a member of their own family, with unconditional love, care and attention.

What was wrong?

Cliff: Scoliosis, UC, brain tumor
Marta: Fatigue, depression, panic attacks

Used alternative approaches, natural medicine, food as medicine

Body related/tangible: Cliffwasbornwithanextravertebra, and had double fusion in his spine. Cliff was diagnosed with UC at 16 and on medications at 17. Diagnosis of a brain tumor led him to where he is now.  Cliff did not accept the norm, knowing there is always an answer; there is always an alternative method to regain your own health.

Marta: Much of her problem was in her head.  She had 2 main depressive episodes, but she thought it was the emotional problems in the past that came back.  She was not sure why the depression came back. Marta started digging deeper to find out why she was crying her eyes out, and not wanting to be there anymore.  Marta thought she knew a lot about nutrition, but soon realized her depression was closely related to digestive tract/gut.   Today, she tries to help people understand that although it appears to be in their head, depression could be linked to something they have not suspected.

How did you meet?

  • Cliff was in Finance
  • Marta was in admin in London
  • Met at a nutrition training

Crucial aspects of the healing process:

  • Cliff:  Find out how does body respond to certain foods or more so what it DOESN’T respond to.  Take a natural approach and focus on the quality of the food and how it nourishes you.  Rediscover real food.
  • Marta: Participating in psychodynamic psychotherapy.  Realizing she is the one responsible for her future, and from then on everything spiraled into fatigue (working too much). Marta changed her nutrition, training and began using supplements specifically for what she needed at the time.  In 2 months, she was a completely different person.   Now she’s focusing on building a foundation for what they use as therapists.

What did you notice for yourself were your trigger foods/got better?

  • Don’t make generalizations with food for IBD, especially everything is so individualized.  Gluten and dairy were issues due to leaky gut for UC. They are no-no’s even to this day.  Cliff can get away with aged cheddar (because of low lactose content).  Most forms of carbohydrates would cause a disturbance (when he was suffering).  Cliff has recovered now and use less allergic carbs.
  • Marta: Gut permeability was a problem for Cliff, for her it was a problem as well, but it was also due to a high stress lifestyle. She was so stressed and didn’t give her time to rest and digest properly due to elevated stress. She is also OK with aged cheddar as a treat. Overindulge in processed dairy, and she will be in a depressed state for a few days or she will be angry or irritable.

When Cliff and Marta begin working with a client, they always start with an Elimination Diet, and then always try to re-introduce foods (wheat, gluten, dairy and soy—main offenders)

  • Re-introduce 3x a day for 3 days and see if there is an effect
  • People want to be able to eat as much as possible
  • Pasteurized cow’s milk: grain wheat gluten (it’s so different from its original form, due to overconsumption and the way it is processed =  our digestive systems don’t deal well nowadays)

In Re-introduction phase, people have varying degrees of tolerance to gluten, dairy

  • It’s very individualized so can’t give general recommendations to everyone
  • Re-introduce foods one by one
  • People react less to cottage cheese from goat’s milk vs cow’s milk
  • Lactase is not present in most people as much anymore due to inflammation

Sometimes if you are sensitive to dairy, it’s probably cow’s milk you have a problem with and you COULD be ok with goat or sheep’s milk.

4 “R” protocol

  • Remove : heal gut, figure out what you are sensitive to. (Remove) eg gluten dairy, pathogens, candida/yeast depending on symptom questionnaire what they will need to remove
  • Replace:  digestive enzymes and HCl b/c normally deficient due to age, stress. Brush border enzymes, pancreatic enzymes, plant based botanogest http://www.nutri-supplements.co.uk/products/Nutri-Botanogest.html, and one that has digestive enzymes, HCl and ox bile to help digest fats (for liver and gallbladder issues). As it comes to anything in nutrition, it depends on the individual person to determine what enzymes they need
  • Repair: targeted nutritional supplements to repair damage done to intestines. Targeted nutritional support. Keeping the foods as good as possible. Cells in digestive tract/intestines turn over in days-weeks.  So most of the work is done by food.  Look at pre-biotics to help large intestine break down short-chain fatty acids, small intestine (glutamine and other things). It is the primary fuel source for the small intestine. But need to be careful where it is sourced…primary source is wheat. Want it to be sourced from corn. Favorite brands of glutamine (http://geneticsupplements.co.uk/)
  • Re-Innoculate: probiotics specific to the person (different strains, different quality sources). It is important to leave probiotics till later.  If they are used at the beginning, you will feel better, but it willmask the symptoms. It is better to REMOVE food first, before introducing probiotics. Otherwise, people are more likely to have symptoms recur.

Using probiotics too early in the process just puts band aid on the situation.

How to know which strain, how long to use, when to stop them?

  • IBD: broad spectrum, multi-strain probiotic (12 strain)
  • Less severe: lactobacillus from good practitioner brands with live cultures (live till expiration not live at production)
  • 30-90 days for people to start with and see how they respond. You want the body to do its own job.   You want to be able to take it away so the body can support itself.  Preference is to get probiotics in your food (sauerkraut, kimchi, pickled cucumbers)

As it comes to anything in nutrition, it depends on the individual person to determine what enzymes they need

Adrenal Health and nutrition strategies

  • People underestimate the power of cortisol
  • Adaptogen herbs and other supplements
  • First look at gut, then look at adrenals + blood glucose management
  • If you get these fixed, everything else gets better
  • Low thyroid function, bad guts, liver’s not working properly so not converting to T3

What labs do they prefer:

  • Saliva test, 4 point test for cortisol, check DHEA to see what is going on with the person
  • Salivary tests are preferred b/c blood tests the hormones are bound and not active

One tip to get started:

  • Eat natural foods from the earth (no label, food must walk, swim, fly, grows on ground or tree then eat it)

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